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3 IN, 3 OUT – Week 3 Seahawks vs. Cowboys – Your Unique Seahawks Review


3 In, 3 OUT is a unique look into our beloved Seahawks. The topics trend granular and dive more deeply into specific plays, players, and areas of the game that we believe mattered more than you might think.

Check out why we're discussing Admiral Akbar, who was on the Mike, and how the 3rd time was the charm all Seahawks fans were craving. How 'bout them Cowboys!!!

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3 IN, 3 OUT – Week 2 – Seahawks vs Bears


Flock, we sink to 0 and 2 and frankly, the team feels a bit lost. BUT, there are always positives to take from every game. Dive into this week's 3 IN, 3 OUT which is your unique Seahawks recap that is created exclusively for the Sea Hawkers Podcast.

3 IN 3 OUT – Week 1 – Seahawks vs Broncos

3 IN, 3 OUT is a fast-paced look at 3 things that excited us about our ‘Hawks and 3 things that left us scratching our head ‘Hawk-filled heads. This week we look at week 1 vs. the Broncos and try to ignore all things Von Miller.

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Running backs who performed well behind bad offensive lines

In the past, we've talked on the show about the idea of improving the offensive line, because it's generally accepted that average running backs can perform well behind a good offensive line. Terrell Davis, a hall of fame running back for the Broncos, had some amazing years in Denver. But his offensive line performed so well that backs like Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson and Clinton Portis also performed well.

But what about the reverse? Can a running back actually perform well behind a bad offensive line?

There aren't many measures for offensive line play that relate to the running game. So I settled on Football Outsiders measure of Adjusted Line Yards. This formula penalizes offensive lines when running backs are tackled behind the line of scrimmage and gives them credit for the gains up to 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. They don't get credit for yards gained beyond 10 yards.

To measure running back success, I went with the top 10 rankings for yards for the season. I looked a couple instances of running backs and yards per carry and yards per game. Yards per game seemed useful and there were some notable backs, but I wanted to account for backs who were able to stay healthy for most of the season. Yards per carry had the potential to bring in running backs who weren't even trusted to take on the majority of the team's rushing game.

With those measures in mind, I went back and looked for running backs who finished in the top 10 in yards, but had an offensive line that finished in the bottom 10 for adjusted line yards.

I found that since 1997, this has happened 34 times. Taking a look at the distribution of where these running backs were drafted, half of them were drafted in the first round and 75% in the first two rounds. Here are the rounds the running backs were drafted:

Round 1: 17

Round 2: 9

Round 3: 2

Round 5: 2

Round 6: 1

Undrafted: 3

Maybe it should be expected that backs drafted higher would be able to perform well without as much help. But there has been a lot of criticism for teams that draft backs early. This seems to support the logic that if you're going to have an offensive line that performs poorly in adjusted line yards (the Seahawks were ranked #31 and #26 the last two years) then drafting a running back early could offer a better shot at having a successful run game.

Full table:

Year

Player

Draft Round/pick

Yards Rank

Line Rank (Adjusted Line Yards)

1997

Napolean Kaufman

RD 1 / 18

6

30 (last)

1998

Barry Sanders

Marshall Faulk

RD 1 / 3

RD 1 / 2

4

9

29

27

1999

Ricky Watters

RD 2 / 45

9

22

2000

Corey Dillon

RD 2 / 43

5

24

2001

Corey Dillon

LaDainian Tomlinson

RD 2 / 43

RD 1 / 5

7

9

26

22

2002

Deuce McCallister

RD 1/ 23

6

24

2003

Ricky Williams

RD 1 / 5

10

28

2004

–

–

–

2005

–

–

–

2006

Willie Parker

Travis Henry

UDFA

RD 2 / 58

6

10

23

26

2007

LaDainian Tomlinson

Willis McGahee

Thomas Jones

RD 1 / 5

RD 1 / 23

RD 1 / 7

1

8

10

25

24

23

2008

Matt Forte

RD 2 / 44

7

24

2009

Steven Jackson

Cedric Benson

RD 1 / 24

RD 1 / 4

2

8

28

26

2010

Chris Johnson

Steven Jackson

RD 1 / 24

RD 1 / 24

4

8

31

26

2011

Michael Turner

LeSean McCoy

Steven Jackson

RD 5 / 154

RD 2 / 53

RD 1 / 24

3

4

9

27

26

30

2012

Chris Johnson

RD 1 / 24

9

31

2013

LeSean McCoy

Alfred Morris

Frank Gore

RD 2 / 53

RD 6 / 173

RD 3 / 65

1

4

9

25

23

29

2014

LeSean McCoy

Arian Foster

RD 2 / 53

UDFA

3

6

29

23

2015

Todd Gurley

Chris Ivory

Frank Gore

RD 1 / 10

UDFA

RD 3 / 65

3

5

9

24

26

27

2016

–

–

–

2017

LeSean McCoy

Jordan Howard

Melvin Gordon

RD 2 / 53

RD 5 / 150

RD 1 / 15

4

6

7

27

28

26

 

I'm open to other ideas for measuring running back success. Just going by the top 10 ranking for yards in a season allows for teams that are very run heavy in terms of play calling to have players with a high volume of yards even behind a low ranking line. I'm thinking there are some other measures that could get us closer to the type of running back performances that we're looking for, but it may be a bit more complicated for trying to calculate and filter out those backs against the adjusted line yard rankings. If you have any thoughts on it, post a note below!

3 IN, 3 OUT – What You Talkin’ About Playoffs!??? – Seahawks v. Cowboys

by fellow 12 Clinton Bonner

Hellllllllllllo Flockers! I hope every one's Christmas's and Hanukkah's were awesome. It's nearly time to wish all a ‘Merry New Year!' … But before we can cross the chasm into 2018, 2017 has some unfinished business to take care of, and no, I don't mean the leftover ravioli and meatballs in my fridge. Those ravs will be dealt with accordingly ๐Ÿ™‚

We received a Brittmas miracle in the form of the Bungles handing the loser Lions a Mortal Kombat death blow! The Saints marched in, and all over the Dirty Birds… and all we wanted for Christmas was a week 16 (game 15) W versus Zeke200. It was lumpy, it was uneven, but we walked outta Big D, with a huge W… and bottom line, we're still IN it!

Speaking of INs, check out the vid above to see which Seahawks earned the 3 INs this week and which 3 need to #DoBetter, as they earned the OUT! Just below, check out the section powered by the Little Flockers … From the Flock.

From the Flock

Fellow Flockers, apologies in advance as it's been super tough to track down INs and OUTs sent via FB. I know some of you posted some this week, but unlike Twitter, FB search is just not nearly as strongย  – apologies to the Flockers I missed!

Ross Bell got us kicked off on Twitter recognizing that Baldwin is indeed EDB – Elite Doug Baldwin!

Brown, OBJ and Julio are all elite but none have moves off the line like our Doug Baldwin @clintonbon #3I3O

โ€” Ross Bell (@RossBell1984) December 24, 2017

Though this wasn't an IN or an OUT it IS Garflield ‘magic carpeting' through a rainbow metropolis GIF and it's from the Flockfather … soooo … it's an honorary IN ๐Ÿ™‚

 

Another honorary IN for the pick-6 TD celebration into the kettle we go! Thx Hector!

 

Pretty simple at this point … 4:25 Eastern. Go ‘Hawks. Go Panthers. Go to the playoffs.

 

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